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Ray Eche

Hello,
I'm wondering if you can help me with a minor horse problem thats very irritating to me and potentially dangerous in the mountains. Both of my Morgan horses lead well, but they want to pass me and lead me. How do I keep them behind me, following?
Thanks in advance for the info.

Ray Eche

Mary Risavi

Hi Ray,
Good question! When your horse attempts to lead you he is doing exactly that, trying to be the leader. Your goal is to prove to the horse that you are the leader. You can do this exactly how another horse would by herding them around and being effective! Also, you can offer the horse the most comfort when they are walking behind you. Whenever your horse attempts to walk in front of you you can wiggle the lead rope up and down. You want to start with small movements and increase the momentum if they do not respond. Continue to do this until the horse slows down and gets behind you. Then you can stop which in turn offers them comfort.
Hope this help!

Stanzie

Hi, I just bought a very bossy mare... She was rearing when I tried to lunge her... Eventually I got her to lunge fairly well. Now I have a new problem. When I get the halter and go into her stall, she puts her head to me and puts her ears back! Eventually I got the nerve to just take the lead rope and throw it over her neck, and she was fine. I think she is trying to test me some more...What can I do? I don't want to get hurt by going in such a small space to try and halter her.

Darren Wetherill

Good to hear from you Stanzie!
I agree, your mare is playing some dominancy games with you. It would be ideal to work with her in a larger area so you can stay a safe distance away. When a horse is in a confined area they may feel claustrophobic and have a stronger desire to defend themselves. If you have a round corral available, try bringing her in there. That way you can easily herd her around. Your goal is to have your mare respect you so when you enter the stall she doesn't have a desire to dominate you. The best way to do this is to dominate her and prove to her that you are the alpha horse. It also might be a good idea to bring her water to her in the stall. By doing so she will become dependant on you for survival. Hope this helps!

Lulu

I got a 6yr old mare who trys to lead me outside of her pen but not inside, also when i take her out she gets really excited because she knows there is green grass! I get very flustrated with this because she totally ignroes me and runs me over! i try to get respect by saying no stand! and she will throw fits and has almost hurt me by running me over she wouldn't stop moving i was pretty scared after that. I want to know what i can do to make her STOP EATING THE GRASS lol and focus on me! she doesnt try n run me over when i take her to the gate but soon as i take her out her nose is in the ground chompin. I've tried putting grass in her pen to see if i can work there but she doesn't try to eat it. So i don't get why she does outside the pen? she respects me inside her pen i can lead her and she won't run me over. It's like i am working with 2 diferent horses! One sweet mare who will let me ride her and another who if i try to ride outside the pen doesn't move! she trys to do her thing.

I've always wanted to ride her around the yard bareback but considering she will bolt with me on her back because i want to ride and not let her eat! i know better then to attempt that!

Very confused and need help,
lulu

Darren Wetherill

Hi Lulu,
Thanks for writing! Sounds like your mare is quite fond of the grass. She finds that eating grass is more important than paying attention and respecting you. You are on the right track by playing with her in the pen first. You need to make sure you are the alpha horse. Herd her around the pen and ask her to face up to you. Once you gain her respect in the pen you can take her outside and do the same. It will be a little bit more challenging but you can accomplish the same results. It is extremely important to be effective! If you try herding her around in the grass and she doesn't respect you, you will need to be effective by 'biting' and 'kicking' her. Be sure to use tools so you can stay a safe distance away. 'Ground to First Ride' video shows a lot of good tips on how to gain respect on the ground.
Happy horsemanship!
Darren

LuLu

Darren,

Thank you for that tip! I thought lunging her and trying to get her respect would work. But showing her i am lead mare in the pen and she should be following me. I herded her around made her face up she wouldn't for awhile but i was consistent until she faced up then i would stop,if she walked away i would herd her again. She joined up once then i had to do it again because she walked off. But after that she is following me, going exactly where i went,stoped when i stoped,she got startled but stoped when she realized i wasn't. I hope to move to a pasture on grass and work here there too.

Thanks so much!

LuLu

Lucy

Hi!
I have this little pony who is a great ride but i have a problem with manners and trust and respect. Bobby(the pony) will not respond to pressure, invades my space, doesnt respect me and will nip at me, hates me touching his belly and picking up his feet and generally grooming!, just general trust and respect issues maybe?? I also thought another sign of him not trusting me is when i take him up to the other stabling area he gets very nervous with or without buddies. Maybe he thinks i would put him in a dangerous position? I would love some advice or comments because i just want a happy safe pony i can have fun with,
Thanks, Lucy

Mary Risavi

Hi Lucy,
Thanks for writing! Sounds like your horse is not convinced you are the leader. All his actions tell that he doesn't respect you as the 'alpha horse' and he would rather be with his pasture mates than you. Your best bet is to work on your leadership skills. You need to prove to Bobby that you are the dominant horse and he should look to you for leadership. Once he does this he will respect you and will want to be with you. Please feel free to post questions!
Happy horsemanship~
Mary

Lucy

Bobby is getting a bit better.He is starting to respond a bit to the herding. I used my crop and tapped him on the leg when he ignored my poking. He moved over straight away! I'm going to work on it more!
From Lucy

Mary Risavi

Wonderful! Good idea to have a back up if the first stimulus doesn't work!

Lucy

Bobby was being really good. Until the pony club rally today. Beutiful morning was fantastic. Then we get to cross country and he gets this big attitude problem, because I've jumped him over the jumps before, and he decides he will refuse everything. I was almost in tears and I really want to move up and do good jumps but i was put into the group going over tiny logs that he stepped over! Its not fair! He just refuses jumps all the time even when I've managed to get him over a higher one! PLEASE help me!!!!
From Lucy-xXx

Mary Risavi

Hi Lucy,
Sorry to hear about your experience. It is extremely important Bobby respects you when you are riding him. If he doesn't he will not respond to you when you ask him to go over the jump. We want to make Bobby find the most comfort when he is jumping over the larger jumps than when he is not. Find a way to make Bobby WANT to go over the jumps. He will then begin to hunt for the jumps and will be more willing to go over them. I know this is pretty vauge but it's important to figure out where Bobby is mentally first. Let me know how it goes!

Lucy

Hey!
Do you think that if i jump him on a lunge line it might help? Maybe no added stress of a rider and me being nervous might help?
From Lucy.

Mary Risavi

Good question! Thats a great way to start. Most likely he will do the jump on the lunge line. If he doesn't it could tell us that he has something that is limiting him physically. Try lunging without the saddle first then add the saddle. See if you notice any changes. You brought up a good point. The rider has a strong influence on whether the horse wants to do the jump or not. Let me know what you find.

Lucy

Hi It's Lucy!!!
Bobbie did really well. My instructor came and helped me teach him the art of loosework. You hold a lunge rein and flick it while giving a voice command like 'trot on'. he trots down the side of the arena to a jump that is between a fence and a lane way of poles, but the poles weren't that high in case he got a bit scared. He was jumping magnificently and was doing some spaced out jumps. He jumped about 2-3ft nicely. He soon responded to just 'trot on bobbie' without me having to wiggle the lunge whip!! After that i took him for a hose up at the stables where he usually gets a bit scared but he was an angel!! I would like to thank you for your support and ideas!! I'm so happy now!!
Love, Lucy-xxx

Lucy

Also I think that maybe the saddle was hurting him, so the saddle fitter is coming out on thursday.
Love Lucy-xxx

Mary Risavi

Hi Lucy,
Thank you for the update, it is so nice to hear how Bobbie is progressing! Once you have eliminated the physical discomfort of the actual horse without the rider, you can then begin to find ways to improve your body so jumping is comfortable for the both of you.
Looking forward to the next update!
Mary

Lucy

Hi!
I rode today. He did it nicely about 3 times but then refused it 6 times so i jumped off, took off the bridle and got him to loose work over the jump.He refused it once then jumped it twice, I jumped back on and he did it fine. I think he might have needed the reminder saying, yes you do have to jump.
Love Lucy-xXx

Lucy

Hey it's Lucy again!
Bobbie is doing fairly well. The only bad thing so far is that he has a cancerous cataract in his eye. He will lose his sight soon but I bet he will still be just as cheeky! I was just wondering, will I still be able to go to shows and do all the normal things or will they not let me do ponyclub or compete with one eye?
Thanks heaps
From Lucy-xXx

Mary Risavi

Hi Lucy!
Good to hear from you.
I'm not sure what the requirements are for horses with sight limitations. I know we have a horse at our barn who is loosing his sight and the owners still plan on taking him to local schooling shows. It might be a good idea to talk to the show organizers and a local vet to see what you can expect.
Look forward to hearing from you soon!

Lucy

cool thanks because he's still a great pony and I'd be devastated if he couldn't do shows or anything because he likes going out to see his friends at ponyclub and at the local shows
from luci-xox

Mary Risavi

Surprisingly it seems like horses who are loosing their sight still have a good sense of their surroundings. One barn I was at last year there was a lady who rode a completely blind horse. It was pretty amazing!

Penny Hart

I look after someone else's pony three times a week and whilst he is lovely natured, he is v.spoilt and gets in my space, treading on toes etc, he will always move away if pushed but is reluctant to, my main isue with him is that when briging him in from his paddock (either to go to his stable or to be ridden) he will walk nicley by my side for a few strides but will then take off into a canter for a few strides (which time i have dropped the lead rope as am unabel to hold on - believe me i have tried) he will then put his down and start eating the much longer and nicer grass that is on the pathway. If you attempt to pick up the lead rope he will canter off again a couple of strides - the only way we have mangaged to cath him is to go and get trwts or a haynet and then he will quite happily come to us, however he has done this so many times now i fear he knows that he is stonger than us and he can get away with bolting off to get grass and then he gets REWARDED in his eyes by recieving treats or hay! i don't have a round pen but we have got two enclosed square pens, i was considering maybe trying the join up and things on the ground to get his respect. please help!!

Penny Hart

p.s Sorry about the appalling spelling mistakes, me trying to type to fast!! lol

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